If Musk is not a government employee, aren’t he and his minions trespassing on government property? Is there no way to arrest them for this?Is there no agency with the power to stop this?
We should have them arrested immediately and seize the computers/drives they are using to steal our info. Let the courts slowly move to get them out of jail.
We citizens need to sue the executive branch for orchestrating the stealing of our data
The minions have been hired by OPM as the newly tasked: USDS (US Digital Services newly renamed US DOGE Services). They are passing on private/classified information to a non-employee, who was denied TS classification prior to the Tr-mp administration due to his many dealings with foreign adversaries.
Trump/Musk must be arrested for breaking into our USAID funding. Congress approved these funds and President Biden signed them. This is Theft! Musk and his hackers have stolen Congressional appropriated funds. Correct me if I'm wrong please, stealing U.S Government funds is still a Felony.
America's Tianan-men Square had better work. If it fails we know not the extent of Trump's wrath but it is sure to be life threatening or livelihood threatening as has already happened to thousands of professionals, those who know how to operate the systems.
Military Generals and or National Guard need to declare military law until democracy can be restored. New elections if necessary with the thousands of criminals, starting with Trump and Musk ineligible to vote.
Since posting my comment, I did some research about who can arrest Musk and his minions for their depredations at the US Treasury:
The Capitol Police. The Treasury building is their jurisdiction. Maybe we should be contacting them. “The United States Capitol Police (USCP) safeguards the Congress, Members of Congress, employees, visitors, and Congressional buildings and grounds from crime, disruption, and terrorism. We protect and secure Congress so it can fulfill its constitutional and legislative responsibilities in a safe, secure and open environment.”
I don't think I'm being overdramatic. Elon Musk should have his citizenship revoked and be deported. Trump should be impeached and imprisoned. They (along with their minions) are attempting to destroy/take over the US government. If Congress allows this coup to continue
they should be recalled. I assume financial gain (access to $5T is a hell of an incentive) and unlimited power are Musk/Trump's goals.
Agreed completely. I was baned for saying the orange helium balloon needed to be tarred and feathered. They said if Iapologised and took down the tweet, I could be reinstated. I will not take down the tweet. But I do apologise. I should not have wished for such a mild punishment. I have changed my mind. Public guillotine would be much more effective and great for the final episode of The Apprentice.
I would rather see a military coup by generals who respect their oath to the Constitution than a Musk coup. He will steal all of our money if he gains access to the Treasury.
Is he even a contractor? He has no contract, am I wrong? What he did was donate +/-$240M to Trump’s campaign w/ strings most assuredly attached. I believe we’re seeing segments of those strings now. What we haven’t seen are where those strings lead or how long they are.
But what can we wish for instead? If they do steal all our money, we're basically dead -- ourselves, our families, all of us. There seems to be no way to fight back legally, because they've taken over the Dept. of Justice, the FBI, and the courts. If we can't get help from the military, what in the world can we do?
Incompetence will keep the worst of his impulses from being implemented. But yes we need to file a lawsuit against “Doge” with 340 million plaintiffs if possible. Including even MAGA would show the claim is not a partisan reaction and we’re protecting them unlike Trump
I expect to see the Muskrat on a balcony of the White House any minute now, telling us that he is now the head of our government and has the receipts to prove it. It only cost him $240,000,000.
I realize this is a tad hyperbolic. But are we powerless to prevent this coup? It is definitely a coup.
I am absolutely flabbergasted and disgusted with the lack of response or movement from the democrats and yes, Republicans with some sense of constitunial responsibility. There is a coup going on and a destruction of the Constitution and there is silence.
He’s spiraling and self destructing and he knows it. He can’t handle all he’s signed up for, and can’t take that no one and I mean no one has ever loved him.
These people Trump put into OPM are not really his appointees? Trump is not the chief executive? The federal bureaucracy does not report to the elected president but exists in its own cosmos like the Supreme Court?
Nope. They are not. Xlon was kicked from the WH. He wanted an “office”. He isn’t elected. Xlon is the richest man in the world. Donald the Nazi isn’t paying him anything to pull America apart.
What Should Be Done?, the subtopic of the last part of this discussion, is the most important phrase in this piece. There are always detailed summaries of what has been going on but never an answer to that question. I am a staunch Democrat but exhausted from the lack of any action at all from Democrat leadership, or anyone else, to stop this takeover of our democracy. Where is the spine of the party? of the media who have been incredibly complicit by not calling out liars and real criminal years ago? Maybe there are groups planning in the background how to take our democracy back but, if so, they have been sitting on their hands far too long. So, WHAT WILL be done? When will they stop fearing Trump's retribution, his revenge and start acting like they actually care what happens to our country. I know I'm not the only one sick to death, realizing that money and power are the only things that run our country. Who, with that money and power, cares enough, has enough integrity and honesty, to actually lead us and do What Should Be Done?
how often have the repubs railed against unelected bureaucrats-these dudes ,esp. musk,are far worse and repubs,in fear of being primaried,say nothing-they've been emasculated-castrated-no cajones
If Musk is not a government employee, aren’t he and his minions trespassing on government property? Is there no way to arrest them for this?Is there no agency with the power to stop this?
We should have them arrested immediately and seize the computers/drives they are using to steal our info. Let the courts slowly move to get them out of jail.
We citizens need to sue the executive branch for orchestrating the stealing of our data
The minions have been hired by OPM as the newly tasked: USDS (US Digital Services newly renamed US DOGE Services). They are passing on private/classified information to a non-employee, who was denied TS classification prior to the Tr-mp administration due to his many dealings with foreign adversaries.
Trump/Musk must be arrested for breaking into our USAID funding. Congress approved these funds and President Biden signed them. This is Theft! Musk and his hackers have stolen Congressional appropriated funds. Correct me if I'm wrong please, stealing U.S Government funds is still a Felony.
Well the DOJ and DOD are now minions of the corrupt gang trying to destroy the USA, so who do you suggest should step in
I have no idea. That is why I asked!
Only people in the streets can help at this point, which will likely end up as America’s own Tianan-men Square…
America's Tianan-men Square had better work. If it fails we know not the extent of Trump's wrath but it is sure to be life threatening or livelihood threatening as has already happened to thousands of professionals, those who know how to operate the systems.
Military Generals and or National Guard need to declare military law until democracy can be restored. New elections if necessary with the thousands of criminals, starting with Trump and Musk ineligible to vote.
I have an answer for you, finally! The Capitol Police are the ones with jurisdiction.
Since posting my comment, I did some research about who can arrest Musk and his minions for their depredations at the US Treasury:
The Capitol Police. The Treasury building is their jurisdiction. Maybe we should be contacting them. “The United States Capitol Police (USCP) safeguards the Congress, Members of Congress, employees, visitors, and Congressional buildings and grounds from crime, disruption, and terrorism. We protect and secure Congress so it can fulfill its constitutional and legislative responsibilities in a safe, secure and open environment.”
https://www.uscp.gov/the-department
And not approved by Congress? Has he taken an oath of office? Just asking.
WHY ARE PEOPLE COMPLYING???!!!! 🤬
And resigning???
I don't think I'm being overdramatic. Elon Musk should have his citizenship revoked and be deported. Trump should be impeached and imprisoned. They (along with their minions) are attempting to destroy/take over the US government. If Congress allows this coup to continue
they should be recalled. I assume financial gain (access to $5T is a hell of an incentive) and unlimited power are Musk/Trump's goals.
Agreed completely. I was baned for saying the orange helium balloon needed to be tarred and feathered. They said if Iapologised and took down the tweet, I could be reinstated. I will not take down the tweet. But I do apologise. I should not have wished for such a mild punishment. I have changed my mind. Public guillotine would be much more effective and great for the final episode of The Apprentice.
I would rather see a military coup by generals who respect their oath to the Constitution than a Musk coup. He will steal all of our money if he gains access to the Treasury.
Be careful what you wish for
Yeah, I know. I just can't stand Musk. He is a contractor and should not have access to anything related to our government
Is he even a contractor? He has no contract, am I wrong? What he did was donate +/-$240M to Trump’s campaign w/ strings most assuredly attached. I believe we’re seeing segments of those strings now. What we haven’t seen are where those strings lead or how long they are.
SpaceX carries most of NASA’s and the DoD/IC’s cargo into space. Tesla and Starlink get subsidies.
But what can we wish for instead? If they do steal all our money, we're basically dead -- ourselves, our families, all of us. There seems to be no way to fight back legally, because they've taken over the Dept. of Justice, the FBI, and the courts. If we can't get help from the military, what in the world can we do?
Incompetence will keep the worst of his impulses from being implemented. But yes we need to file a lawsuit against “Doge” with 340 million plaintiffs if possible. Including even MAGA would show the claim is not a partisan reaction and we’re protecting them unlike Trump
I expect to see the Muskrat on a balcony of the White House any minute now, telling us that he is now the head of our government and has the receipts to prove it. It only cost him $240,000,000.
I realize this is a tad hyperbolic. But are we powerless to prevent this coup? It is definitely a coup.
How does a private citizen gain access to government disbursements? This includes his tech people…violation of privacy?
I am absolutely flabbergasted and disgusted with the lack of response or movement from the democrats and yes, Republicans with some sense of constitunial responsibility. There is a coup going on and a destruction of the Constitution and there is silence.
How is no one in mainstream media reporting on this? Where are the democrats?
It is being reported on -- my links are all to the NYT, Reuters, WaPo, CNN, etc. But the Democrats are really not doing much counter-organizing.
He’s spiraling and self destructing and he knows it. He can’t handle all he’s signed up for, and can’t take that no one and I mean no one has ever loved him.
Why is he not being arrested!?
By who? He controls the DoJ now
Who was elected to run the country, you or Trump?
Musk has as much right to run the OPM as I do.
These people Trump put into OPM are not really his appointees? Trump is not the chief executive? The federal bureaucracy does not report to the elected president but exists in its own cosmos like the Supreme Court?
Trump didn't put them there! Musk did! It's a bunch of 20-year olds from X!
Are you delusional? Musk is putting people into the federal government on his own authority without legal authorization?
Musk is a private citizen. He has no legal authority over government departments.
That's exactly what he's doing.
Yes. If you aren't just a troll, pay attention and quit being so oblivious.
Well gee, someone better tell Trump about this. Send him an email.
Trump has proved he has contempt for the law.
Nope. They are not. Xlon was kicked from the WH. He wanted an “office”. He isn’t elected. Xlon is the richest man in the world. Donald the Nazi isn’t paying him anything to pull America apart.
Musk, apparently
What Should Be Done?, the subtopic of the last part of this discussion, is the most important phrase in this piece. There are always detailed summaries of what has been going on but never an answer to that question. I am a staunch Democrat but exhausted from the lack of any action at all from Democrat leadership, or anyone else, to stop this takeover of our democracy. Where is the spine of the party? of the media who have been incredibly complicit by not calling out liars and real criminal years ago? Maybe there are groups planning in the background how to take our democracy back but, if so, they have been sitting on their hands far too long. So, WHAT WILL be done? When will they stop fearing Trump's retribution, his revenge and start acting like they actually care what happens to our country. I know I'm not the only one sick to death, realizing that money and power are the only things that run our country. Who, with that money and power, cares enough, has enough integrity and honesty, to actually lead us and do What Should Be Done?
Lock him up.
how often have the repubs railed against unelected bureaucrats-these dudes ,esp. musk,are far worse and repubs,in fear of being primaried,say nothing-they've been emasculated-castrated-no cajones
Elon Muck.
Where are the police!?