100% on point. When he talks about taking their sovereignty, he's crossed a red line. Turn off the mic. I'm imagining a First Nations approach whereby the matriarchs run him out of the room.
"Good will, not hate or reprisals, will end, or offset, the evils of the Hitler government's persecution of Jews, Professor Henry J. Cadbury, Professor of Biblical Literature at Bryn Mawr College, told the Central Conference of American Rabbis as it opened its convention here today. [...] Professor Cadbury is chairman of the service committee, American Society of Friends. "Oppression of Jews in Germany by Hitler and his Nazi forces can be ended not by hate that their victims may display, or by attempts to fight back," he said, "but by efforts to cultivate good will. You can prove to your oppressors that their objectives and methods are not only wrong, but unavailing in the face of the world's protests and universal disapproval of the injustices the Hitler program entails."
and
"By hating Hitler and trying to fight back, Jews are only increasing the severity of his policies against them. If Jews throughout the world try to instill into the minds of Hitler and his supporters recognition of the ideals for which the race stands, and if Jews appeal to the German sense of justice and the German national conscience, I am sure the problem will be solved more effectively and earlier than otherwise."
So yeah, screw civility when someone is calling for harm against you. Further, to equate boycotts and non-collaboration with hatred and violence is the type of false equivalence that fascists build their regimes upon. I am glad you called out the BS Seth.
Seth Masket, calling for Trump to be deplatformed for incivility:
“One such rule is, “You may not incite or engage in the targeted abuse or harassment of others.” This is a Trump specialty. He has repeatedly threatened and insulted people on Twitter. He threatened James Comey shortly after firing him, and then baselessly accused him of perjury last week. He used Twitter to try to intimidate Sally Yates. He has dismissed members of Congress with belittling nicknames like “Cryin’ Chuck Schumer” and “Pocahontas.” He referred to Meghan McCain as “angry and obnoxious” and called Frank Luntz a “low class slob.” And I haven’t even mentioned how he referred to his primary and general election opponents in 2016. Quite simply, he has engaged in a great deal of Twitter misbehavior that has resulted in suspended accounts for others.”
The more I re-read that paragraph, the more I think you just wanted to remind us that he called Frank Luntz a low class slob. Only one of us true fans of incivility would have thrown that one in there. Admit it, you also liked it when he called Justin “Governor Trudeau,” but you’re just slowly turning over a new leaf. Welcome to the club, we forgive you for ever pretending you didn’t like the reality TV show antics.
"We just didn't talk about racism. It wasn't polite." This is something I heard in an interview with an elderly woman from The South and it's just stuck with me ever since.
Calling out people for being racist was considered "impolite" so since people wanted to be "polite" then racism got to continue mostly unabated while everyone was being polite to the powerful people who felt comfortable speaking up when they felt uncomfortable.
Seth, it is not offensive or bloodthirsty to point out that over time parts or maybe all of Canada will become a territory of the United States. Many have come to the conclusion that the current lines on a map are permanent they are not. For proof, look at the map of the world at the turn of the 19th Century to the 20th Century, and compare it to today. Notice any changes? Even as we speak, some providences are putting to a vote to succeed from Canada.
100% on point. When he talks about taking their sovereignty, he's crossed a red line. Turn off the mic. I'm imagining a First Nations approach whereby the matriarchs run him out of the room.
This reminds me of a recent article/post I saw referencing to one Rabbi's reaction to Hitler in 1934 amidst calls to boycott the Nazi regime (https://www.nytimes.com/1934/06/15/archives/urges-good-will-by-jews-for-nazis-prof-cadbury-of-society-of.html)
"Good will, not hate or reprisals, will end, or offset, the evils of the Hitler government's persecution of Jews, Professor Henry J. Cadbury, Professor of Biblical Literature at Bryn Mawr College, told the Central Conference of American Rabbis as it opened its convention here today. [...] Professor Cadbury is chairman of the service committee, American Society of Friends. "Oppression of Jews in Germany by Hitler and his Nazi forces can be ended not by hate that their victims may display, or by attempts to fight back," he said, "but by efforts to cultivate good will. You can prove to your oppressors that their objectives and methods are not only wrong, but unavailing in the face of the world's protests and universal disapproval of the injustices the Hitler program entails."
and
"By hating Hitler and trying to fight back, Jews are only increasing the severity of his policies against them. If Jews throughout the world try to instill into the minds of Hitler and his supporters recognition of the ideals for which the race stands, and if Jews appeal to the German sense of justice and the German national conscience, I am sure the problem will be solved more effectively and earlier than otherwise."
So yeah, screw civility when someone is calling for harm against you. Further, to equate boycotts and non-collaboration with hatred and violence is the type of false equivalence that fascists build their regimes upon. I am glad you called out the BS Seth.
Good lord.
But I do appreciate American rabbis being lectured to about the proper role of Jews by this [squints] Professor Cadbury
Indeed. I've been posting for a while now that "manners are a ticket to the boxcars."
Seth Masket, calling for Trump to be deplatformed for incivility:
“One such rule is, “You may not incite or engage in the targeted abuse or harassment of others.” This is a Trump specialty. He has repeatedly threatened and insulted people on Twitter. He threatened James Comey shortly after firing him, and then baselessly accused him of perjury last week. He used Twitter to try to intimidate Sally Yates. He has dismissed members of Congress with belittling nicknames like “Cryin’ Chuck Schumer” and “Pocahontas.” He referred to Meghan McCain as “angry and obnoxious” and called Frank Luntz a “low class slob.” And I haven’t even mentioned how he referred to his primary and general election opponents in 2016. Quite simply, he has engaged in a great deal of Twitter misbehavior that has resulted in suspended accounts for others.”
Whoa, a deep track!
Off the B side of Double Standard
The more I re-read that paragraph, the more I think you just wanted to remind us that he called Frank Luntz a low class slob. Only one of us true fans of incivility would have thrown that one in there. Admit it, you also liked it when he called Justin “Governor Trudeau,” but you’re just slowly turning over a new leaf. Welcome to the club, we forgive you for ever pretending you didn’t like the reality TV show antics.
"We just didn't talk about racism. It wasn't polite." This is something I heard in an interview with an elderly woman from The South and it's just stuck with me ever since.
Calling out people for being racist was considered "impolite" so since people wanted to be "polite" then racism got to continue mostly unabated while everyone was being polite to the powerful people who felt comfortable speaking up when they felt uncomfortable.
Seth, it is not offensive or bloodthirsty to point out that over time parts or maybe all of Canada will become a territory of the United States. Many have come to the conclusion that the current lines on a map are permanent they are not. For proof, look at the map of the world at the turn of the 19th Century to the 20th Century, and compare it to today. Notice any changes? Even as we speak, some providences are putting to a vote to succeed from Canada.
Um, yes, a lot of boundaries have changed over the past century. Most of those were achieved very violently and without consent.